@hoser: I’m just using publicly available data on Canadian public healthcare right now. As you say, you have your private insurance option, which makes you relatively wealthy and you thus pay twice for the same ‘service’, you go to the “rich people” queue at the doctors, if your doctor even sees public healthcare patients at all.
That’s not “typical” for your average Canadian. Off course this is not what you above were describing, what was said is that bus loads of people come across the border, walk into a pharmacy, pick up free medicine from the public healthcare pharmacy and go back to the US which is BS.
As far as to your comments about MRI. You need to drive 2 hours to a different state to get an MRI and pay out of pocket? I can call my local doctor, if urgent, be seen same day, pay $15, if he says, go get an MRI right now I can go to a hospital or other provider which there are literally more than a dozen MRI suites, even an animal one, in about 30 minute distance, for $35 specialist copay I have the MRI done and read and sent back to my doctor. And this happened to my wife after pregnancy, we had a neuro consult in <1h. A few months later I get a bill that says the procedure would have cost me about $700/h for the MRI and there are line items for contrast fluid that was manufactured at the local cyclotron with a half life measured in hours and other services, totaling a few thousand (oh, gasp, healthcare is expensive) my insurance will cover it. If you have no insurance and you have insufficient income to pay for it, Medicare/Medicaid and the hospital will cover it, which is why healthcare in the US is so expensive, because it is expensive, it is fast and efficient and private businesses pays for most of it. The majority of Americans don’t die due to lack of healthcare, they die because they are fat and it is cheap enough and easier to medicate than make lifestyle changes, meanwhile our Canadian friends are promoting suicide to anyone that becomes too expensive.
This is true for any “poor” (<$50k income) American which Medicare/Medicaid covers most if not all of their cost. This is true for any illegal immigrant or Canadian that walks across the border (which happens a lot, I live close to Canada) because hospitals are obligated to provide healthcare - unlike Canada, the hospital I work for can’t put people in queues, refuse care or adjust wait times depending on whether they have insurance. People here get upset if they had to wait 2 hours to see a doctor because they presented to the emergency room with a sneeze.
We actually have ~15 3T MRI suites in just 1 hospital system, most hospital systems in the US have at least 1, even the rural ones. Many of them are used for research as well when not busy which is a significant amount of revenue. Our northern neighbors in Saskatchewan have exactly 5 3T MRI facilities across the entire province with 3 of them being ‘private’ practices. I work in that field so I know they are building 1 suite for the public healthcare facility in Saskatoon. We currently have 2 on order for our regional (not even state wide) hospital system.